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President Obama Echoes ĂÛÖÏăÌÒ: College FIREShouldnât Be âCoddled and Protected From Different Points of Viewâ (Transcript)

At a in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday, President Barack Obama told college students to critically engage with views they disagree with, instead of trying to silence them.
To support his position, Obama echoed the concerns presented by FIREPresident and CEO Greg Lukianoff and New York University professor Jonathan Haidt in their September cover story for The Atlantic, â.â
âI donât agree that you, when you become students at colleges, have to be coddled and protected from different points of view,â Obama told a group of 1,400 students at Des Moinesâ North High school as part of U.S. Department of Education Secretary Arne Duncanâs 2015 back-to-school bus tour.
The following is a transcript of President Obamaâs remarks:
QUESTION: Hi, my nameâs Ava. Iâm currently a junior at Lincoln High School here on the southside of Des Moines. My question is to you is: I know you donât want to get involved with the presidential race at the moment, but⊠A candidate has said that they want to cut government spending to politically biased colleges. And I was wondering if, say, that would hurt the education system for those who depend on that, or would it better the education as a whole?
OBAMA: First of all, I didnât hear this candidate say that. I have no idea what that means. [Laughter.]
I suspect he doesnât either. [Laughter; applause.]
Look, the purpose of college is not just, as I said before, to transmit skills. Itâs also to widen your horizons; to make you a better citizen; to help you to evaluate information, to help you make your way through the world; to help you be more creative. The way to do that is to create a space where a lot of ideas are presented and collide and people are having arguments and people are testing each other's theories, and over time people learn from each other because theyâre getting out of their own narrow point of view and having a broader point of view.
So, Arne Iâm sure has the same experience that I did, which is, when I went to college, suddenly there were some folks who didnât think at all like me. And, if I had an opinion about something, theyâd look at me and say, âWell, thatâs stupid.â And then theyâd describe how they saw the world, and they mightâve had a different sense of politics, or they might have a different view about poverty, or they might have a different perspective on race, and sometimes their views would be infuriating to me. But it was because there was this space where you could interact with people who didnât agree with you, and had different backgrounds than you, that I then started testing my own assumptions, and sometimes I changed my mind. Sometimes I realized, âYou know what, maybe Iâve been too narrow minded. Maybe I didnât take this into account. Maybe I should see this personâs perspective.â So, thatâs what college, in part, is all about.
The idea that youâd have somebody in government making a decision about what you should think ahead of time or what you should be taught, and if itâs not the right thought, or idea, or perspective, or philosophyâthat that person would beâthat they wouldnât get funding, runs contrary to everything we believe about education. [Applause.] I mean, I guess that might work in the Soviet Union, but it doesnât work here. Thatâs not who we are; thatâs not what weâre about.
Now, one thing I do want to point out is: Itâs not just sometimes folks who are mad that colleges are too liberal, that have a problem; sometimes, you know, there are folks on college campuses who are liberal, and maybe even agree with me on a bunch of issues, who sometimes arenât listening to the other side. And thatâs a problem too. I was just talking to a friend of mine about this, you know, Iâve heard some college campuses where they donât want to have a guest speaker who, you know, is too conservative. Or, they donât want to read a book if it has language that is offensive to African Americans, or somehow sends a demeaning signal towards women. And, you know, I gotta tell you that I donât agree with that either. I donât agree that you, when you become students at colleges, have to be coddled and protected from different points of view. [Applause.] You know, I think that you should be able toâ[stammers].
Anybody who comes to speak to you and you disagree with, you should have an argument with them. But you shouldnât silence them by saying, âYou canât come because, you know, myâIâm too sensitive to hear what you have to say.â Thatâs not the way we learn either.
So, what do you think, Arne?
ARNE DUNCAN: [He responds off-mic.]
OBAMA: He said âAmen.â Alright. Okay.
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